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Neocloud Protection Pricing

17 October 2026CoreWeave Inc., Oracle CorporationDownload

Points of notional unless stated. Flat hazard, 4 percent discounting, quarterly premium with accrual on default, standard coupons of 500bp (CoreWeave) and 100bp (Oracle). Recovery 40 percent unless stated; 20 percent approximates the rating agencies’ recovery range on the CoreWeave unsecured notes. A method in miniature, not a dealer curve.

CoreWeave five-year: cost of entry and what is implied

5y spread (bp)ContextUpfront, R=40% (pts)Upfront, R=20% (pts)Running (pts/yr)1y PD3y PD5y PD, R=40%5y PD, R=20%Break-even event probability
3686 Oct close(5.2)(5.3)5.06%17%26%21%21%
505Nov 2025 print0.20.25.08%22%34%27%27%
6439 Oct close5.05.35.010%27%41%33%33%
800retracement zone10.010.75.012%33%49%39%39%
98214 Oct record15.016.45.015%39%56%46%45%
1,03815 Oct late16.518.05.016%40%58%48%47%
1,19515 Oct intraday record20.222.45.018%45%63%53%51%
1,500stress26.329.75.022%53%71%61%59%
2,000pre-restructuring33.839.45.028%63%81%71%70%

Break-even: the probability of a covered credit event by year 2.5 at which the expected payout (80 points at 20 percent recovery, less upfront and coupon) equals the expected cost of a no-event hold to maturity. The upfront at 368bp is negative: a buyer on 6 October was paid to own protection.

Mark-to-market after a twelve-month hold

Entry 5y spreadexit 400exit 600exit 800exit 1,000exit 1,195exit 1,500exit 2,000exit 3,000Event at m6, R=20%Event at m18, R=20%Event at m30, R=40%
368 (paid (5.2))-3.1+3.2+8.8+13.7+18.0+23.7+31.2+41.0+82.7+77.7+52.7
643 (paid 5.0)-13.3-7.0-1.4+3.5+7.8+13.5+21.0+30.8+72.5+67.5+42.5
800 (paid 10.0)-18.2-11.9-6.4-1.4+2.8+8.6+16.0+25.8+67.5+62.5+37.5
1,000 (paid 15.5)-23.7-17.5-11.9-7.0-2.7+3.1+10.5+20.3+62.0+57.0+32.0
1,195 (paid 20.2)-28.4-22.1-16.6-11.6-7.4-1.6+5.8+15.6+57.3+52.3+27.3

Break-even exit after twelve months

EntryBreak-even exit (4y point)Widening required
368495+127bp
643855+212bp
8001,063+263bp
1,0001,331+331bp
1,1951,596+401bp

What the cash bonds implied on 15 October

BondPriceYearsImplied flat spread, R=40%Implied flat spread, R=20%5y CDS same day
9.25% Jun-203088.13.7876bp871bp1,038 to 1,195
9.00% Feb-203184.74.31,021bp983bp1,038 to 1,195
9.75% Oct-203183.25.01,067bp1,029bp1,038 to 1,195
9.625% Jul-203281.55.81,109bp1,055bp1,038 to 1,195

The curve is upward sloping in hazard terms: the bond market was pricing the 2030 to 2032 maturity wall, not a 2027 liquidity event.

Tenor

TenorSpread inferred from the bond curveUpfront (pts)Coupon to maturityMaximum loss, no eventCoversCumulative PD pricedPayout multiple on an event at month 15
2y (20 Dec 2028)about 780bp4.71014.72027 funding gap only23%4.7x
3y (20 Dec 2029)about 870bp8.51523.52027 gap, DDTL 1.0 at March 2028, first DSCR tests35%2.8x
4y (20 Dec 2030)about 990bp13.32033.3adds the June 2030 notes, DDTL 2.0 and 3.048%1.8x
5y (20 Dec 2031)about 1,038bp16.52541.5adds the 2031 stack58%1.4x

Oracle five-year

5y spread (bp)ContextUpfront (pts)Running (pts/yr)1y PD5y PDAll-in 12m carry
120BBB index level0.91.02.0%10%1.2
198Jul 2026 prior record4.11.03.2%15%1.7
2608 Oct6.51.04.2%19%2.1
28815 Oct record7.61.04.7%21%2.3
400fallen-angel pricing11.61.06.4%28%2.8
500BB minus14.91.08.0%34%3.3
700single B20.71.011.0%44%4.0
Entryexit 150exit 200exit 250exit 288exit 350exit 400exit 500exit 700
288 (paid 7.6)-6.8-5.1-3.5-2.3-0.3+1.2+4.0+9.2

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